______________________________________________________________________ DRAFT TRANSCRIPT SIG: IX Date: Thursday 2 March 2006 Time: 2.00pm Presentation: Euro-IX update Presenter: Serge Radovcic ______________________________________________________________________ PHILIP SMITH: Next up we have Serge Radovcic and his presentation is 'Euro-IX Update'. SERGE RADOVCIC: My name is Serge Radovcic and I'm from Euro-IX. One thing I do want to do - and I was in Mumbai in SANOG and I always try and get more participation from the audience. And last time I had some test questions during the presentation and people weren't allowed to have lunch until they'd answered the test questions right and that worked really well. Yeah? Which most people hate. This time I've done something different. I've got a prize. Something in this bag. It's that big and it's from - I won't tell you who it's from but there is a prize in there. There's a spelling mistake somewhere in the presentation so the first person who picks it up - and please leave it to the end - gets the prize. LOUIS LEE: Are your slides online? SERGE RADOVCIC: The spelling mistake isn't. I'm glad to be back. This is my third time here at APNIC. One of the reasons I'm here is to learn more about the region and, while I'm here, I thought I'd give you an update on a few of the trends and statistics that are going on in Europe. OK, Euro-IX was originally, and still is, called the European Internet Exchange Association. It was formed in May 2001 as of January last year which decided to invite IXs from outside the region to join Euro-IX. Euro-IX is not an exchange point. We're not an exchange point. We are an association of exchange points. So it doesn't matter how many times I say this, people will come to me in the coffee break and say, "How many members - how much does a one-gig port cost at Euro-IX?" It will always happen but we're not an exchange point. We currently have 37 affiliated IXs, 33 of those are in Europe and four of those are outside of Europe. Since I gave my last presentation in Kyoto, Equinix decided to join - Bill, and you didn't even know - SIX, Slovenia, joined, TIX in Tuscany in Florence, Italy, joined and the latest to join outside of Europe is JPIX and we currently have an associate member who's just filled in an application form. I don't know why but it ends up being in the middle of the months but once a month I do an aggregated peak traffic of the member IXPs that do public traffic stats. That tends to be 23 European IXPs at the moment and that comes to just over 500 gigs per second. This time last year, it was about 272 so it's roughly an 84% increase in the last 12 months and a 7.2 increase in the last month. It works out to roughly 17.9 gigs per IX. We have one IX doing around 130 to 135 gigs. There's currently 16 European member IXPs offering a couple of high take-ups. Of all the members, and that's including the IXs that I have outside of the European region, we have 2,520 connectees to those 37 members. If you go to the Euro-IX website, we have a couple of tools. One is what we call the Euro-IX database. Basically, I get the IXs to list the APSNs and the name of everyone that's joined. So it's now 2,543 and you can search there and, if you want, do a search on IXs or names or AS numbers if you're looking for particular people. Another little tool that we made was the IXP peering matrix so you can also compare Euro-IX member IXPs against each other and look for non-unique AS numbers. So they're a couple of tools that we've got. About 1,400 unique ASNs of people that are connected to IXPs, which works out to 260Mbps peak traffic per customer. We hold a benchmarking club for all our members and, in one of the sections, we had 30 IXPs fill in the benchmarking club for Euro-IX and they were all European. The average price of a one-gig port is 850 euro. This time last year we also did a benchmarking club and it was 880 euro so it's not going up. This is the make-up of our membership. We have small, medium and very large IXPs. There are those that were established in 1993 all the way through to 2002. We have Cisco is the most common switcher used followed by Extreme, Foundry and we have others also coming into the picture. What we offer our members, our member IXPs - the usual stuff - mailing lists, website listings, the portal, what you saw there with the tools we offer. Probably one of the biggest values to the members is the forums that we hold twice a year. A couple of times, we've had more than 30 IXPs at these forums and they've proved really successful and we'll continue doing them. I mentioned the benchmarking club. We also have a number of information repositories, maintenance diaries, so that people can keep an eye on when the maintenance is occurring. The switch database, which I think is quite useful and people, if they've got similar switches, have a look at what software is being put on them and give the IXP a call and say, "Did you have any trouble using that software or switchers?" So it's quite useful. All this information is behind the members' pages. Plans for 2006 - well, our next forum is coming up in Dublin, Ireland on 8th and 9th of May. We're considering taking a more active role in public affairs, that's a discussion going on in other membership and something we'll talk about in Dublin. We're always looking for more and varied members from Europe and around the world and of course we're also investigating other ways to collaborate with other IXPs, which we'll discuss soon. If you're an IXP in the room and you'd like to join Euro-IX or talk about the possibilities of joining then please come and speak to me or have a look at the contact details that I've got there up on the screen. And that's about it. BILL WOODCOCK: Somehow, I'm afraid that the performance metrics you're talking about are not bits forwarded per euro. What metric did you have in mind? SERGE RADOVCIC: You mean in the benchmarking club? We have about eight different sections. It does talk about traffic. It talks about a number of members, increasing the membership, staff issues, how much staff costs, how many staff do these people have. We do have a lot of models so it's hard to compare. BILL WOODCOCK: Bits forwarded per staff person would be an acceptable metric, I think. SERGE RADOVCIC: From the information we provide, you could probably work that out. Are there any other questions? No-one wants to claim the prize. No-one picked the mistake. If you are interested, the current membership fees are 4,000 euros for a European IXP and outside Europe it's 2,500 euros. We are not for profit. The fees are not the highest concern so, come and talk to me if you'd like to be a member and that's it for the Euro-IX update. PHILIP SMITH: OK. Thanks very much, Serge.