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Open NIR meeting

Wednesday 4 September, Kitakyushu International Conference Centre, Kitakyushu, Japan

Minutes

Meeting commenced: 11:00 am

Chair: Maemura Akinori

The Chair introduced the purpose of the open NIR meeting and explained the agenda. He thanked the sponsors and encouraged attendees to complete evaluation forms.

Contents
  1. Criteria for the recognition of NIRs in the APNIC region
  2. Operational policies for NIRs in the APNIC region
  3. APNIC Allocation Manager demonstration
  4. Request for NIR re-activation and VNNIC's entry to NIR
  5. KRNIC IPv6 RMS update
  6. IDNIC-NIR update status

  1. Criteria for the recognition of NIRs in the APNIC region
  2. [Presentation]

    Paul Wilson, APNIC

    This presentation summarised the work of the NIRs and the APNIC Secretariat to develop a clear set of criteria for recognising NIRs. There was a review of the status of confederation membership in the region. It was explained that the working relationship between NIRs and APNIC has become very close and is functioning well. There is now a consistent operating model, which all of the existing NIRs are now following.

    It was stressed that under the criteria proposed, candidate organisations must be endorsed by the appropriate national authority (such as Government). It was explained that it cannot be the role of the Secretariat or the EC to intervene in national affairs and determine how countries should select their own NIRs.

    It was stressed that ISPs are currently free to choose between their NIR and APNIC, and this is not proposed to change under the new structure.

    The presentation described the proposed procedure for recognising NIRs, which would be the responsibility of the EC. The procedures for withdrawing or changing recognition were also discussed.

    It was noted that the proposal does not seek to change the current position regarding the status or operation of NIRs, but rather to clarify it and provide more formal documentation.

    Finally, it was noted that issues relating to operational policies will be the subject of another presentation (a show of hands on this proposal was conducted following the next presentation, described below).

    Questions and discussion

    • No further discussions.

    Action items

    • None

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  3. Operational policies for NIRs in the APNIC region
  4. [Presentation]

    Anne Lord, APNIC

    This presentation described the draft document which proposes policies for the interaction between the NIRs and APNIC. It was noted that the draft document aims to describe the basic principles of the relationship but that it is also proposed to develop a more detailed, FAQ-style document to provide further guidance.

    The draft document proposes only one significant change to the current process, which is to specify that all allocations will come directly from the APNIC address space pool. The intention of setting up the NIR allocation request process is to improve the chance of aggregation for members of NIRs. It was noted that the NIR would remain fully responsible for evaluating the allocation requests from their members.

    The presenter also clarified other procedures, such as the second opinion process, database registration, and DNS generation.

    The presenter described the process that has been developed for handling transfers of membership between NIRs and APNIC.

    It was noted that it is intended to implement the operational policies document and the proposed NIR recognition criteria within three months of achieving consensus.

    Questions and discussion

    • There was a question regarding the implications for reverse DNS delegations when NIR memberships are transferred to APNIC. It was noted that if an allocation transferred back to APNIC is smaller than /16, it could affect the reverse DNS of other allocations within that range.
    • It was explained that the intention of the policy is to provide the best service and choice to LIRs. Therefore, it would be acceptable to allow ISPs to also choose whether to receive DNS services from either APNIC or the NIR.
    • It was also explained that the new procedures allow for DNS records to be transferred without interrupting the DNS service.
    • There was also a question relating to the process for initiating reverse DNS registration when allocations are first made to an ISP.
    • There was a call for a show of hands in support of the two proposals presented.
    • On the subject of the NIR criteria, there was a show of support (and no objections) to the proposal.
    • On the subject of the NIR operational proposals, there was a show of support (and no objections) to the proposal, with the proviso that more detail will be provided and circulated on the DNS issues.
    • The Chair observed consensus to adopt the proposals in principle, with the proviso that more detail must first be provided on the DNS issues.
    • It was suggested that in the interests of possible future amendments that it would be preferable to keep the recognition criteria and operational policies separate.

    Action items

    • Action nir-02-001: Secretariat to draft and circulate more detail of procedures and policies relating to DNS issues, and to proceed with implementation of the NIR criteria and operational policy documents.

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  5. APNIC Allocation Manager demonstration
  6. [Presentation]

    George Michaelson, APNIC

    This presentation provided an update on the APNIC project to develop software allowing better management of resources and accounts. The presenter outlined the programming methods used, and described the design principles that had been applied in the development of the project.

    The presenter then provided a brief demonstration of the interface and the features of the Allocation Manager software. He also congratulated the primary developer, Sanjaya, for the quality of the work.

    Questions and discussion

    • No further discussions.

    Action items

    • None

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  7. Request for NIR re-activation and VNNIC's entry to NIR
  8. [Presentation]

    Vu Xuan Bach, VNNIC

    This presentation summarised the request from VNNIC for APNIC to consider their request for recognition of their application to become a new NIR. The presenter provided a summary of VNNIC's history and activities, including its relationship to, and support from, the Vietnam government. He explained the international and domestic reasons behind VNNIC's request and referred to the draft NIR criteria document which was presented earlier in this meeting.

    The presenter explains that VNNIC currently provides consultancy support for Vientnamese ISPs which apply for APNIC membership. He also emphasised that VNNIC's activities are carried out in accordance with regional and international policies and goals.

    It was explained that the Vietnam government requires VNNIC to achieve foreign and domestic recognition as an NIR to ensure uniform management. This recognition is also considered necessary for VNNIC to provide full policy enforcement and technical support in Vietnam. The presenter described some of the problems facing the developing industry in Vietnam.

    The presenter described VNNIC's preparations for seeking to join the NIR community, then made a formal proposal for APNIC to reactivate the NIR mechanism based on the draft documents presented earlier in this meeting, and for APNIC to recognise VNNIC as a new NIR in the region.

    Questions and discussion

    • The Chair noted that as the meeting had already approved the NIR recognition criteria, that it was now possible to consider VNNIC's request.

    Action items

    • None

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  9. KRNIC IPv6 RMS update
  10. [Presentation]

    Moo-Ho Cheon, KRNIC

    This presentation provided an update of the KRNIC IPv6 Resource Management System project. The presenter outlined the goals of the project, including efficient management of IPV6 resources, to serve members better, and to allow for better information about request evaluation to be provided to APNIC.

    The presenter displayed samples of the management modules available in the RMS software, which allow management of resources and membership administration. He also noted that KRNIC will launch a web page to allow APNIC greater access to information about resource usage and membership status in Korea.

    Questions and discussion

    • No further discussions.

    Action items

    • None

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  11. IDNIC-NIR update status
  12. Marcelus Ardiwinata, IDNIC, and John Sihar Simanjuntak, APJII

    This presenters discussed the recent consolidation of APJII and IDNIC to perform NIR activities in Indonesia. They explained that the consolidation had received the support of the government and industry in Indonesia. They explained that they are not forming a new entity, but are rather modifying some of the operational procedures.

    Questions and discussion

    • No further discussions

    Action items

    • None

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Meeting closed: 12:45 pm

Minuted by: Gerard Ross

Open action items
  • Action nir-02-001: Secretariat to draft and circulate more detail of procedures and policies relating to DNS issues, and to proceed with implementation of the NIR criteria and operational policy documents.

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