______________________________________________________________________ DRAFT TRANSCRIPT APNIC Member Meeting Friday 9 September 2005 4.00pm ______________________________________________________________________ PAUL WILSON: Welcome back. We'll start with a MyAPNIC-Lite demonstration from Sanjaya. SANJAYA: Thanks, Paul. I'm going to demonstrate MyAPNIC-Lite. This is a new version of MyAPNIC that we will deploy soon. The main feature of this new release is actually a performance improvement based on feedback from members from low-bandwidth locations. They feel that MyAPNIC has a bit of a slow response time because there's a lot of graphics on it. They also need a better page layout and structure so they can get quicker access to the most used functions. So these are basically the main motivations for this version, this coming version, of MyAPNIC which we call MyAPNIC-Lite. It was eventually just become 'MyAPNIC' because, you know, there will only ever be one version of MyAPNIC. The highlight of MyAPNIC-Lite is that it is basically a new version of MyAPNIC that will replace the current system eventually. It transmits smaller blocks of HTML data over the wire and it's actually deployed on a new, faster compression technology. So we use different techniques to make sure that it will respond fast. So the changes are - we made some change on the back-end software. We strip out all the unnecessary embedded HTML codes, so the HTML is shorter. HTML code is also changed to reduce the use of images. We are also using a lot of CSS to exploit the local rendering speed instead of sending prepared nice-looking page, we send a CSS and a template and let the browsers handle the screen to make it look nice. And we change the menu into drop-down menus so it allows people to go to the target page without having to click through several pages. And with the hierarchical menu, the page size also becomes smaller. On the systems change - like I said before, we use compression technique supported by most modern browsers. Unfortunately, if you're using a very old browser, then it probably won't get any benefit from MyAPNIC. It will not break but you will not get the benefit. And also a dedicated hardware. That's basically the features. Now I'm going to show a demo. Just so the demo will work smoothly, can I please ask people who've been downloading MP3 files to stop for a while. Come on, Paul! Stop it! RANDY BUSH: But the object was to work well in those situations. SANJAYA: I knew you would come up with something! PAUL WILSON: OK, everyone start downloading now and we'll check out Sanjaya's stuff. SANJAYA: I feel that everything is alright. OK, so this is the standard of preference profile. People who first come into MyAPNIC would see this profile and then they need to choose depending on their role, they might want to see administration page as their first screen in MyAPNIC or, if they are a hostmaster, they want to click Resource so next time they go into MyAPNIC they will straight go into the resource page. So this is one trick to make sure that people will as soon as they log in to MyAPNIC, they will see their most relevant page. This is the hierarchical menu (refers to slide) You can see it drops down. Actually, this technique is commonly seen in other websites, so we're not inventing any new things here. We just use the available features of the modern browser. So if you're a hostmaster and you want it go straight into your IPv4 allocation list, you just go there. Ah! Snappy. So this is your list of allocations and, just like the current version of MyAPNIC, you can just go down and see the utilisation in each of the blocks that you have. And you can just update your assignment records and so on. We also use a Javascript to allow faster moving of fields for example. If I just do that, I can move fields up and down. And this doesn't require any interaction with the host or consume any bandwidth whatsoever because it's completely done on the client side. If you want to see your AS number in resources, you go to the list and you immediately see your AS numbers and you just click one. And get the information there. So you can see that it's - if you have been using MyAPNIC, you can see that it is much more responsive now with MyAPNIC-Lite. We are hoping to deploy this in a few weeks' time pending some issues we need to resolve. It's the back-end database connection that we still need to work on. So I expect to see this launching in a few weeks' time. I guess that's it. Paul? Any questions? PAUL WILSON: OK, I guess that's it. SANJAYA: Thank you. APPLAUSE PAUL WILSON: Another open microphone session. (No response) OK, well let's consider the microphone open generally. Please interrupt me if you have something to say. As you would have noticed when you registered for this meeting, we're asking a few questions these days on the registration system about where you're from and what you in your job role and what your company does. Here is the breakdown here. We had more than 23 countries I think represented in the 160 or so people registered for this meeting. 51 were from Vietnam, 26 from Australia, 19 from the US, 14 from mainland China, 13 from Japan and so on and so on. So that's quite interesting. I would like to say thanks to those of you who came from somewhere like Uruguay. I understand it's something like 40 hours to get here from Uruguay. Is that right? Is this your first meeting? For 25% of us, yes, it was. What connectivity did you require? This is something that's changing a little bit because now we have 80% of people bringing their own laptops and wireless cards. 11% don't need Internet connectivity at all and I just wonder how that can be. Only 9% these days are using the terminal room so the number of computers going to the terminal room at these meetings is getting smaller these days and I don't know that anyone in fact needed to hire a wireless card because - or to borrow a wireless card because that has also been an option in the past. So we are all wireless, if we need to use the Internet at all. Industry - 28% of people here come from Internet service providers. 22% from Regional Internet Registries - quite a few of those of course from APNIC. Also we have quite a few from ARIN as you heard and from the other RIRs As well. 17% from NIRs, 16% from other - I'm not sure how broad that spread is but we also have vendors and Internet hosting providers and ccTLDs here. What is your job role? 26% managers, 25% network engineers, 12% host masters, 8% CEOs and 28% other - maybe we should break down the other category a little bit so we can see a bit more detail there. And that's that. So that's a summary of who's come to this meeting and, once again, we're trying to improve the meeting so the idea is to work out who you are, what your interests are and so on and we do that through an evaluation form and whatever other meetings that we can find. Now, one of the results you've been waiting for is the Number Council election and thanks very much to Ray, Axel, Raul and Mathias, I think, who helped count the votes in this case. They were very glad they didn't have thousands of papers as they did have at the last meeting. They counted 103 votes in total. Two of those were invalid. There were a total of some 37 votes cast through MyAPNIC and the rest online. Sorry - the rest were on-site. I was just testing, Randy. Thanks. The winner of the ballot in first place with 57 of the 101 valid votes is Kenny Huang. APPLAUSE So congratulations, Kenny, and thanks to all who ran. Thanks to the other candidates who ran in the election and to those of you who voted. Thank you. Now, as we know, Kenny is actually a current Address Council member. He was appointed - or a Number Council member - he was appointed by the APNIC EC. The APNIC EC will be appointing a replacement for Kenny. They won't be reappointing Kenny because he can't hold two positions on the Address Council but this elected position is for the following two years. The EC will, between now and the end of this year, need to make a decision on who sits in that appointed position for the rest of this year. We will of course have an election again this time next year for the other of the elected positions. Any questions? Now, I'm not sure if we're quite ready to this but we can draw the prize from the evaluation form draw. Sunny will just go out and get that. The other thing that we can draw any time now is the Nominum draw, which is the iPod. So whenever we're ready. Mathias Koerber from Nominum. This is the draw for the iPod, which has been going on this week and you can see the iPod at the back of the room. It's real. The box is not empty. MATHIAS KOERBER: That shows an empty name for the winner at the moment (refers to slide) We would like to thank APNIC for the opportunity to have a lucky draw as part of our sponsorship agreement. We have collected quite a number of entries in the form over there. I would like to call on Nurani to be the person to draw the lucky person. It's over there. Sorry - it's a bit far. For all of those who haven't heard yet, the prize is an iPod photo. You will have to wrest it from his fingers once the name is out. I hope you have drawn a good name, even if it's not mine. Let me type it. (Types ÔProfÕ) 90% of the group is now saying "too bad". (Types ÔQian HualinÕ) APPLAUSE Please step up. Thanks to everybody else for participating. We very much appreciate your contact details. LAUGHTER I hope it's a good surprise. OK. SPEAKER FROM THE FLOOR: What about a second one? MATHIAS KOERBER: If you sponsor a second one, we would be happy to draw the name. So thank you for the opportunity and good luck next time. PAUL WILSON: Thanks to Nominum. And the next prize draw is for the winner of the evaluation form contest and we need someone to draw this prize as well. Randy. RANDY BUSH: Not many! (Draws winner) I didn't bring my glasses. PAUL WILSON: Is it Kwon from VNN.vn.? RANDY BUSH: Somebody from VNN.vn. SUNNY CHENDI: It's someone from VNPT. PAUL WILSON: I'm giving it 10 seconds to be resolved or ask Randy to draw another. I don't think we can post the prize to the lucky winner. It's Cuong Nguyen Xuan. Let's leave it at that and we'll trust that the person will be found. So let's move right along. The next meetings. APNIC 21 will be held in Perth, Australia - thank you, Randy - as part of APRICOT 2006. This is between 22 February and 3 March. The APRICOT window includes the period includes a week of tutorials and so forth at the beginning and the APNIC meeting will be at the end of that period. You'll be receiving information about that, of course, closer to the time. Bear in mind that fellowships are available so if you need some travel support or some support for attending the meeting, then there will be an APRICOT fellowship program. APRICOT 2006.net is the website for the Perth APRICOT meeting itself. There's not details of the APNIC meeting on that one. That's where you'll find the information. The next meeting after that is APNIC 22. It will be in August/September 2006 at a location to be determined so I would ask you all to consider the possibility of making a proposal for this meeting either yourself or with some colleagues from your country and Randy has a suggestion of - RANDY BUSH: Hawaii. PAUL WILSON: Why not? It seems like the Pacific to me. The documentation for the call for proposals will be available soon on the APNIC website so you can expect to receive some notice about that as well. We rely on good proposals from good hosting organisations such as we've had at this meeting so please do consider that. We do have one other prize, which does need to be given and that is the APNIC web hunt. OK, the APNIC web hunt was held during the newcomers' orientation and people at that meeting were asked to answer a few questions about APNIC. All the answers of which could be found on the website. And the winner is a Mr Zarre Omar from Access Telecom. APPLAUSE Now, I don't know if Access Telecom needs a wireless broadband router. You've probably got a few of these. Congratulations. APPLAUSE OK, we've come to the end of day 4 of the Open Policy Meeting. That's the end of the 20th OPM and the APNIC Member Meeting for today. I'd like to repeat our thanks to VNPT for sponsoring the day today. They were the gold sponsor for this meeting, this day of the meeting. And also we had JPNIC, KRNIC of NIDA and TWNIC as silver sponsors, all contributing to the success of today's meeting. So I'd like to say thanks in particular to those sponsors for today. APPLAUSE And I hope that you'll all be with us again next meeting. Thanks also to all of the sponsors of APNIC 20 over the last several days. These include Nominum, of course. We've seen them already today. VNNIC, who as well as hosting the meeting were the sponsor for the social event which was a fantastic night the other night. We have some certificates of appreciation so if the representatives of these sponsoring organisations would please come up, I'd like to provide certificates. Cisco Systems as well for their sponsorship of Tuesday, VNPT for Friday. JPNIC, as you've heard, is the silver sponsor for today. CNNIC was silver for yesterday. KRNIC of NIDA and TWNIC also silver sponsors for today so let's say thanks to all of those organisations for their support. APPLAUSE And more thanks also to the SIG chairs, once again, most of you have been helping out in this capacity for a few meetings and sometimes a few years so thanks to Kenny, Kazu-san, Izumi, Xing Li, Philip Smith and the co-chairs as well, numerous co-chairs who help out with the SIG sessions. We had guest speakers today in the panel session in particular. Maemura-san, Tom Vest also for the plenary presentation, Phet from APDIP, Raul, Robert Shaw and Sharil. The tutors and workshop conveners, Jordi, Merike, Suresh and Philip. And I actually have gifts for all of you people so please come on up and receive a surprise gift. Come on, you know who you are. APPLAUSE And a very big thanks, of course, to VNNIC because VNNIC put a great deal of work into the hosting of this meeting. They put in a proposal quite some time ago and have been working hard to make the meeting a success. So we've worked closely together and once again thanks for the support. APPLAUSE TAN TRAN MINH: On behalf of VNNIC, I would like to give our special thanks to APNIC for making this event successful in Vietnam. Thank you for all the participation and I hope you had a good time in Hanoi. See you. Thank you. PAUL WILSON: So thanks to all of you especially for coming, for being here and for participating in the meeting. We at APNIC all look forward to seeing you in Perth in six months' time. Thank you. APPLAUSE (Close of Meeting)