______________________________________________________________________ DRAFT TRANSCRIPT Database SIG Thursday 8 September 2005 2.00pm ______________________________________________________________________ XING LI: Good afternoon. It is about time. We have enough time to wait five more minutes. This is APNIC database SIG and the agenda is simple. There will be only one proposal - I mean presentation. So first let me review of action items for the database SIG. There are three action items open. The first one db-19-001. Following approval at each remaining step of the policy development process, the APNIC Secretariat will implement proposal 026-v001, APNIC to publish address assignment statistics and to date the status is implemented and Sanjaya is to report. Db-18-001, proposal for establishment of an IPv6 IRR to be referred to the mailing list for detailed discussion of the framework and the implementation. The status is implemented and Sanjaya again will report. And the third one, db-17-002, proposal for IRR mirroring policy to be returned to the database mailing list for further discussion. Update - open. No activity on mailing list. The item will remain open. However, if there is no progress by the next APNIC meeting, the item will be closed. The next APNIC meeting is this one. The status actually - this action item, the proposal was withdrawn by the proposer. The reason - this is the mail I received. (Refers to slide). It seems CRISP will be a solution for this at this moment and the proposer may raise the question again but at this stage it's withdrawn. So that's the update I would like to give and the next will be the presentations by Sanjaya. Thank you. SANJAYA: Good afternoon. My name is Sanjaya from the APNIC Secretariat. I'm going to present two proposal implementation reports. Don't worry, there's only five pages in this presentation so I think we can go out and enjoy the city after this. Two proposals. The first one is the proposal on IPv6 IRR service at APNIC and the second one is for APNIC to publish address assignment statistics. The first proposal was proposed by Toyama Katsuyatsu from NTT Lab. The idea is actually to add capabilities in APNIC to allow for IPv6 routing registry service. In APNIC 19, Kyoto, we reported the progress of the implementation of that proposal where we decided to just implement the latest version of RIPE NCC's database that has the IPv6 routing registry capabilities already built in. Originally, during that Kyoto APNIC 19 meeting, we had planned for the implementation to happen by April 2005 but due to some customisation issues, technical issues, we couldn't really finish it in time according to that schedule. But finally everything is working well now. So we have customised and tested the new Whois system that has the new IPv6 registry service. The only problem is we cannot - APNIC Secretariat cannot really test this thoroughly because we are not a heavy user of IPv6 so what we - I have ended up deciding is actually to put this new version of Whois in the APNIC test Whois for testing by the members, particularly from those economies that does a lot of IPv6 deployment and then let us know if it works fine, then we will put it into production. So at the moment I'm inviting IPv6 operators to have a look at testwhois.apnic.net and see if you can register IPv6 route objects and play with it and if you have any problems let us know and I'm hoping by late this month if I got a good response from the tester we can just put it into production. Suresh? Question? SURESH RAMASUBRAMANIAN: The Chair just announced that Toyama-san decided to withdraw the proposal. SANJAYA: That's not that proposal. I think Suresh was mentioning the proposal was withdrawn. That was not the withdrawn proposal. The proposal that was withdrawn, I believe, is about the making a hierarchy - SPEAKER FROM THE FLOOR: Making a hierarchy structure. SANJAYA: Formalise a hierarchy. That idea is withdrawn and taken to the CRISP working group. Right, so that's the first proposal that we implemented. The second implementation is for APNIC to publish address assignment statistics. This is proposed by Toshiyuki Hosaka from JPNIC. The background of that proposal is due to APNIC's policy in customer privacy so some of the assignments that used to be seeded in Whois now has gone into the private database and can't be seen by the public and some researchers would like still to track the assignment status, how would this IPv6 and IPv4 address be deployed in each country in a summarised form, not necessarily in a detailed form that is subject to the customer privacy issues. So just a summary. We reached consensus at APNIC 19 that this should be implemented. That proposal is available on the URL shown on the slide. We had implemented this policy on September 1, 2005 - last week. So starting that date, we are making a daily report in that FTP site. If you go to that FTP site, you will see files of this name - assigned-apnic-yyymmdd. You can download it every day and make your own analysis of the data. The report fields compatible with the allocation statistics we used to see where it has the registry name, we have the country or economy code, there's resource type - whether this is IPv4 or IPv6 assignment - what is the assignment size. If it is IPv4, the size is in the number of host that is being assigned to the end customer and in the case of IPv6, it will be the prefix size that is given out to the customer, so whether it is a /64 or /48, and the status will always be assigned and the last field will be the count, so how many /48s has been deployed in Japan by a particular date can be seen from this report. This is just an example. (Refers to slide) So we know that in Hong Kong, there's one assignment that gives an end customer 131,072 addresses. In Hong Kong we have - also in Hong Kong we have three end assignments that give 16,384 IPv4 address to the end customers and this is another example line. In Indonesia, there are 169 end assignments of the size 4, which is /30. So hopefully this will be useful for you to track the state of assignments in different countries in this region. Now, I would like to remind you that this is what we have in APNIC database. Now, it doesn't represent the whole region because some of the assignment is actually slotted in the NIR database so please bear that in mind. You have to add other data capped by the NIR to the statistics to come up with overall Asia Pacific assignment status. I would - from doing this, I would encourage the NIRs to probably publish similar statistics so we can have a complete picture of the whole region. That is all. I told you it was going to be short. XING LI: Thank you. Any questions? No questions? OK, thank you very much. SANJAYA: Thank you. APPLAUSE XING LI: Because we have plenty of time, do you have anything you want to discuss? So this is a simple meeting and I would like to announce some housekeeping things. The sponsor of today is CNNIC silver sponsor and the tea will be outside - not now, later. MyAPNIC demo at help desk and help desk is available at the break times. On the outside noticeboard, please show the noticeboard on the screen to participants and point out to che